Vegitarians and supplements
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hello i was wondering since vegitarians dont get alot of protein because the main source of protein from meat is gone, is it okay to take protein supplements to maintain your protein levels? or are there other ways of getting protein like beans and cheese?
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hello i was wondering since vegitarians dont get alot of protein because the main source of protein from meat is gone, is it okay to take protein supplements to maintain your protein levels? or are there other ways of getting protein like beans and cheese?
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The protein in raw fruit and vegetables has the equivalent of breastmilk, between 1% and 6%, this is all a child needs at the fastest stage of human development, excess protein from animals, in the long run, leads to diabetes, it coats the cell walls and prevents the uptake of insulin, it is also implicated in cancer and heart disease. l read THE CHINA STUDY by Colin T Campbell,
isbn 1-932100-38-5, he is very highly regarded in nutritional
research, l was astonished to learn that the cause of cancer was established way back in 1968, but has been kept hidden by those with vested interests, check it out on goggle, then read it.
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Vegetarians have plenty of alternative sources of protein - dairy, soya, nuts, pulses... they don't need to take supplements.
You can go for meat substitutes such as quorn as well.
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I do not consider lactovarians vegetarians, and a little research on soya unveils a mutitude of sins, finally nuts and pulses are ok when sprouted, to overcome their phytates,
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For Vegans, the main sources are nuts and pulses. I know that a vegetarian's digestive system develops and adapts to the diet slightly so that they can gain from nutrients and protiens in vegetables, nuts and grains, that meat eaters cannot - the system basically becomes more sophisticated.
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I am a raw foodist, a while ago it dawned on me that we know very little about nutrition, i,ve heard that a single living cell has around ten thousand working parts, this includes plants with their lifegiving forces, plant grows in soil consuming digested protoplasm from bacteria that feed on minerals in rockdust, as the plant grows it captures photons from the sun though its leaves that are converted into living sugars as fruit. There are 92 elements(minerals) on earth, grass contains 82 of them, just look how fit grazing animals are, a heffer is 65lbs at birth and 400lbs at 12mths old, all that hoof, horn and bone in such a short time, and yet we are told there is hardly any calcium in grass and clover, so where does it come from? Well, my view is that their cells dont require a sofisticated diet, all plants must contain most of the elements in differing proportions, cows take what is available and their cells synthesis what they need. Raw plant materials are all humans need for fuel, cooked food is poison.
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Hello Jack,
How long have you been a raw foodist for? I've got to admit that saying 'cooked food is poison' seem very definitive! I'd love to learn more about your diet so that I can see where you're coming from.
Personally, I've a feeling that you may well be right but for the majority of people that's not an attainable lifestyle. I'm quite interested in discovering ways to give people the information to make decisions about how many vegetable they eat, where they get their food from and how it is produced.
Just as I'd like this website to be a good resource for those kinds of ideals, doesn't meant that people can't find out about raw foodies too. How about starting a new discussion dedicated to the facts and figures behind your diet?
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I might have posted this before, but for anyone searching for information about the raw food diet, About.com has a decent guide here...
http://altmedicine.about.com/od/popularhealthdi...
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Hi duncan
Its been over five years, since i found i had diabetes, since i began to adopt a prehistoric diet, goggle lead me to dr.schnitzer.com in the black forrest, then later i came upon rawfoods.com and the book, Natures First Law, the raw food diet, and my eyes were opened, i claim no credit, its all in the book. l understand what you say, its not easy overturning the habits of a lifetime, the addiction to cooked foods, for thats what it is, begins before birth, in the womb, my rebirth began the moment l saw the truth, that cooked food IS poison, so simple, so true. ln many ways, life would have been easier had i not stumbled across this truth, my life isnt the same, there i was ,nipping out for a pint every night, grabbing a takeaway on the way home, not even vegetarian, eating piza, curry ,fish and chips ,disabled and retired with oteoarthritis, then this happens.Three weeks later l threw my stick away, bought a bike, havent drove my car since, stopped all medicines under the scrutiny of the practice nurse, she said see you in 12 mths, havent been back, that was in 2002. My buddies in the local organic movement saw all this, i get invited to mens health events, to give advice, they pay expenses sometimes, i feel lm being used, and no-one takes this seriously, so i understand your comment about it not being an attainable lifestyle, yet i cant give up, seeing my friends and family getting sick keeps me going, i lost a stepdaughter last year,cancer, so now you know were i m coming from. let me think on new disussion, lve been trying to put all this together in a coherent fashion but it just all seems to be going deeper.
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Hi Jack,
Thanks for the reply - it's certainly helped me understand why you've made the decisions you have. I'm extremely sorry to hear about your step-daughter. Cancer is something I have only very limited experience and knowledge of, so I don't think I can truly understand what that was like.
I do still find the idea of cooked food as poison a strange one, but I'm more than willing to accept that your diet has had a huge impact on your lifestyle - that in itself is excellent news. Perhaps you could give me an idea of what a typical meal looks like for you? Or, as you've suggested, put all this into a new discussion where we can talk about it more.
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Hi Duncan
When l go out during the daytime there is always a bag of fruit with me, an apple is a complete meal, its that simple really. At home a meal consists of cider vinegar and olive oil dressings, over chopped tomatoes, onion or garlic, cucumber, celery or fennel, lettuce or spinach, sweet pepper or persimons and grated carrot or sweet potatoe, i change the sauce by adding mustard or mango chutney and even curry paste, sometimes a chopped apple, its all mixed in the bowl i eat from, this can be eaten anytime. Thanks for your kind comments regarding my step-daughter, at one stage she regained 5lb weight on fruit juice alone, in a week, after 6mths of loss, but then returned to her normal diet until the end. You will find it difficult to believe but green juices shrink cancers, try arnoldsway.com, you will love this guy.
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Now that sounds like a much more tangible diet - I can certainly see the attraction on eating a mix of fruit and salads for a day. It's impressive that you eat like that on a regular basis and it does seem a pretty balanced diet too - plenty of fibre, vitamins and so on.
Do you find that still need to take any supplements, like iron for example?
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HI Duncan
l am just eating a bowl of apple carrot and celery, cut into chunks with lime juice drizzled over to prevent oxidation, as far as im concerned, its perfect, as nature intended. Others can add whatever they wish, but i know that some organic minerals, obtained from the soil, such as iron, revert back to their inorganic form when subjected to high temperetures, they are poisons. Cooking with plants is playing at chemistry, the long term effect are sickness and disease, the sun has already cooked them to perfection. Supplements are highly lucrative products, aimed at the sick and disabled, just another product of the greedy processed food industry.
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Just to follow up on this, The Guardian newspaper in the UK have just published an article on raw food. Normally their 'lifestyle' articles are a bit thin on the ground, but this one takes the subject pretty seriously and is a good read:
"I have been challenged by my editor to eat entirely raw for a week, and reading up online has left me veering between mild enthusiasm and intense scepticism. Proponents attribute massive benefits to eating only raw foods, including increased energy, weight loss, emotional balance, and even the prevention of cancer and heart disease. They claim that raw, unprocessed food contains enzymes essential for digestion which are destroyed in the course of cooking - many even believe that cooked food is actively toxic.
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I also have my suspicions, though. One concerns the argument advanced by many raw-foodists that their diet is best for us because the human digestive system was founded on a raw vegan diet. This is disputable - many prehistoric communities (including the Inuit) are thought to have lived primarily on meat and fish, while archaeologists have traced cooking back more than 1.5m years. Even without such evidence, though, these ultra-Luddite arguments annoy me. Many prehistoric humans also lived in caves, never brushed their hair and had a perilously low life expectancy, and I don't fancy that much, either."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/food/story/0,,1947951...
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I suggest not to depend in food supplement all the time. I prefer the natural way of supplementing protein in our body. There are many foods rich in protein such as chicken, fish, pro, beef, lamb, cheese, burgers, soybeans and more. Eating these foods really help. Infact, these food are good to eat and affordable.
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